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During a local tournament, I walked onto a green and spotted a pitching wedge obviously left by a group ahead. After we all putted out, I picked up the wedge and put it in the basket of my cart, thinking I would drop it off at the clubhouse at the turn or give it to its owner if we caught up with him. After I teed off on the next hole, a fellow competitor said I had violated Rule 4, having more than 14 clubs in my possession which called for a 4-stroke penalty. I argued that I never intended to use the club and did not even put it in my bag, so it couldn’t be a violation. What say you? – Rick Itami, Liberty Lake, WA

We say kudos to you for not telling this dunderhead to go pound sand or taking even more drastic action.

Clearly, there can be quite a difference between referencing a Rule and knowing what in fact it says. Rule 4 — 4.1, to be exact — specifically covers this courteous act, noting it does not add to one’s club count, so long as the club isn’t used. Your competitor was at best wrong and at worst trying to get one (or four) over on you.

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Can you carry clubs outside of your bag and not have them count toward the legal limit of 14? —Joseph Mills, Pinehurst, N.C.

Yes… but only if you balance them on your nose.

Come now, Joseph — 14 clubs maximum means 14 clubs maximum (per Rule 4.1b[1]), not 14 clubs and however many more you can stash under your armpit, in your opponent’s bag and behind bushes.

Breaching this rule is a two-stroke penalty per hole in stroke play, maximum two holes, and once you realize you’re in breach you must declare the extra clubs out of play immediately or be disqualified. Golf is a game of honor, not hoarding.

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During a recent round, my tee shot forcefully struck a robot lawnmower, was deflected at 90 degrees, and went out of bounds. Without the deflection, the shot clearly would have been on the fairway. My playing partner was of the opinion that the lawnmower was an outside influence, and that I should replay the shot with no penalty. I wasn’t so sure and reloaded for 3 off the tee. Who was right? —John Deacon, via email

Did the robot not hear you yell, “Fore!”?

Sadly, the reload was the correct call. Your playing partner was right about the status of the lawnmower — it does fit into the outside influence category under the Rules. Unfortunately, however, that fact doesn’t change the ruling, because a ball played from off the putting green that is accidentally deflected by any outside influence is just played as it lies — which is this case means taking the penalty and playing again from the previous spot, per Rule 11.1.

Perhaps next time, clanking on off R2D2 will redound in your favor.

For more bad-bounce guidance from our guru, read on …

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A few weeks ago, I hit a perfect slam-dunk shot on a par 3…but our club has placed 2-inch pool noodles in the holes for COVID-19 reasons, and the ball bounced out. Our club pro said it was an ace. The state golf association said it probably was, too, but not having seen it suggested I talk with my fellow players. They all agreed the ball had landed directly in the hole. Do you agree that it was a hole-in-one (with an asterisk)?—Dennis Doherty, Lexington, Ky.

Dennis, there are no pictures on the scorecard, nor asterisks, question marks or parallelograms….The USGA hasn’t changed its guidance in terms of when a ball is considered holed.

It has to be, yes, holed…or with the limited exception of it resting against the flagstick with some portion of the ball below the surface.

Otherwise, sorry, you’ve got to play on, noodle or not.

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Our group was teeing off on a par 3. I hit a nice shot about 10 feet left of the pin, then a playing partner hit one that, from our point of view, appeared to roll just inside of my ball. At the green, thinking his was closer, I marked the other ball…turns out that was his ball. We immediately noticed the mistake, and I replaced the ball to its original spot. Did I violate any rule, or is it “no harm, no foul”? – Scott Baxendale, Arlington Heights, IL

Happily and indubitably, it is the latter — no harm, no foul.

In stroke play, you’re an outside influence and as such wouldn’t be subject to penalty for lifting the other player’s ball anyway (see Rule 9.6). In match play (see Rule 9.5), while there is a one-stroke penalty attached to deliberately lifting an opponent’s ball, there is an exception for exactly the situation you describe — mistakenly lifting the ball thinking it’s your own.

As long as the ball was put back on the right spot, there is no penalty to anybody and play on … and make the putt, please!

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My brother and I both missed a green, on the same line, leaving treacherous downhill chips. He was away, and I said that I’d mark my ball despite it not being on the putting surface, as it might potentially assist him. Before I could, however, he chipped… and croqueted my ball over the other side of the green while his trickled down near the hole. I replaced my ball on the original spot and told him to replay his shot, as I’d wanted to mark. “Too bad,” was his reply. Penalty? Can’t you mark any time you think your opponent could gain an unfair advantage? – Peter Starshak, via email  

The relevant term, “helping ball,” only applies to a ball on the putting green. Ergo, since your ball wasn’t on the green you weren’t allowed to mark your ball solely because you thought it might help — your brother was allowed to make the stroke with it still in place.

Had your ball been on the putting green, the ruling’s script would be flipped; Rule 15.3a would penalize your brother the general penalty of loss of hole in match play or two strokes in stroke play for making the stroke without waiting for your ball to be marked.

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I hit my ball into a no-mow area with various native grasses and weeds, swirling and growing in all directions. After a short search, I located a ball several inches down in the deep stuff and moved the grass over top of the ball to identify it. I was careful not to move the ball, but the grass I parted stayed where I moved it, leaving me a clean look at the ball — it probably improved my ability to swing the club through it all. My opponent said I shouldn’t move any more grass because I can’t improve my lie but left it at that. Should I have incurred a penalty? – Peter Reiter, via email

You sound like a reasonable guy, Peter, and that’s the crux of the matter. So long as the moving or bending of the grass was reasonable to try to find and identify the ball, there’s no penalty even if you did improve the conditions affecting the stroke — most impacted here, the lie and area of intended swing.

While Rule 8.1 protects those areas from moving, bending and breaking growing stuff out of the way, the Rule also provides an exception to allow you to search fairly by taking reasonable actions to find and ID your ball. See Rules 8.1b and 7.1a for details; offer not valid in Alaska or Hawaii (kidding!).

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If the local rule in effect says you can place 6 inches on the fairway and my shot lands 1 inch in the fairway, can I place that ball within 5 inches on the first cut if I prefer? Technically, that wouldn’t be improving my lie as I’ve gone onto a supposedly worse surface. – Wayne Mudgway, via email

Presumably, you are referring to the Preferred Lies Local Rule—Model Local Rule E-3. If so, yes, you may place the ball anywhere in the general area within the specified distance.

If you were inclined to place the ball into the rough (“first cut”? Are you playing Augusta National?), that is indeed your prerogative. Rules Guy himself will admit to sometimes being spooked by tight turf, preferring the forgiveness of a launchpad lie.

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My second shot on a par-5 embedded into the front lip of a bunker. At least half of the ball was embedded into the grass lip, but part of it was definitely touching the sand. Is this ball considered embedded, or in the bunker and played as it lies? – Nick Monti, via email

Both. The ball is in its own pitch-mark made by the previous stroke and below the surface of the ground, so it is indeed embedded. But it’s also touching sand, so it lies in the bunker — here, we point you to Rule 12.1 — and relief for an embedded ball is not allowed when the ball is in a bunker (or even when in the general area but embedded in sand in an area not cut to fairway height or less).

Ergo, per Rule 16.3 and definition of embedded, you need to play it as it lies or take an unplayable.

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The deer around my home course often run through the bunkers. Charming… but can I smooth the tracks if my ball comes to rest in a hoofprint? – Shay Ballard, Prescott, Ariz.

While deer tracks may, er, tick us off, you can’t smooth them, because smoothing isn’t allowed if it improves the conditions affecting the stroke — aka CATS.

Even if Model Local Rule F-13, which treats damage by animal hoofs (or paws) as ground under repair, is in effect, you still wouldn’t be allowed to smooth but would get a free drop instead. We will discuss deer droppings another time.

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I know that it is illegal to use the slope feature on a rangefinder in tournament play but that players can agree to waive the rule for casual play. My question: If the slope feature is used, can the score be posted for handicap purposes? – Thomas A. Franko, via email

Rules Guy, as you might imagine, isn’t big on casual. We do sometimes eschew a pocket square on casual Fridays, but that’s about it.

Regarding your question specifically: This situation does appear in a Clarification in the Rules of Handicapping: Clarification 2.1b/2 recommends that a score made while using a DMD (Distance Measuring Device, not to be confused with its distant relative WMD) to measure slope changes not be acceptable for handicap purposes.

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I generally play from a set of tees one-up from the back. If there is a particular hole with an impressive tee box from the tips, however, can I move back and play from there just for that hole? Also, if it’s match play and my opponent agrees to do the same, is that okay? And would my round still be legitimate for handicap purposes? – Andy Wiegert, St. Louis, MO

Instead of bringing your driver to the tips, Andy, just bring a camera.

Rule 6.1b requires you to play from within the teeing area; which set of tee markers is for your teeing area is specified by the Committee. You as a player don’t have the right to overrule the Committee willy-nilly, or in any other manner.

In a stroke-play competition, you’d get two penalty strokes for playing from outside the teeing area and would need to correct the mistake before starting another hole or be disqualified.

In a match, technically you and your opponent wouldn’t be penalized for agreeing to play the wrong teeing area so long as you didn’t know you’re not allowed to make that switch by agreement. (Now that you’ve read that sentence, that’s no longer possible; agree to ignore a rule and you’re both disqualified under Rule 1.3b.)

As for posting a score, if a Course Rating and Slope Rating doesn’t exist for a particular combination of tee sets being played (i.e., “Black/Blue,” “Blue/White,” etc. — something more courses are doing), a temporary Course Rating and Slope Rating would need to approved and issued by the local Allied Golf Association for the score to be acceptable.

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On a par 3, my playing partner, “Steve,” flew the green into the hedges beyond. He re-teed and without declaring a provisional hit it to 4 feet. Upon reaching the green, the group on the next tee — located on the far side of the hedges — said the ball was next to that tee, in-bounds but with no real shot. Steve was adamant that his second ball was in play, as he hadn’t said, “Provisional.” I argued that you can’t declare your own ball lost. Who was right? – Joe Lauder, Warrington, Cheshire, England

“Steve” was adamant, and he was also correct.

Sorry, Joe, but you always have the option to play under penalty of stroke and distance, and the Rules do not require you to play a ball provisionally. When “Steve” did not announce his provisional before making the stroke, that ball became his ball in play under penalty of stroke and distance. He laid 3 with a 4-foot putt for his bogey 4. And you are now better versed in Rule 18.3.

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My friend drives wide right. Presuming it is lost, he hits a provisional, which also goes far right. We eventually found both balls in-bounds. Problem: the balls were identical, and neither was marked, so we couldn’t determine which was the original and which was the provisional. He was advised to play the one further from the hole as his first ball, then take a two-stroke penalty at the end of the hole. Was that correct? – Bart Calvanese, Denver, Colo.

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Oh, what a tangled web we weave when we neglect to mark our golf balls differently.

Bart, when a player can’t distinguish between original and provisional, and both balls are found on the course, the player must choose one — either one — and treat it as the provisional, under Rule 18.3c(2).

Thus, your friend would have been taking his fourth stroke with the ball of his choosing. To anticipate the follow-up question, were one ball in bounds and the other OB, you’d play the in-bounds ball as the provisional.

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My playing partner hit a worm-burner on a par 3 that appeared to stop short of the green. Initially unable to locate the ball, it was eventually found to have come to rest inside a cellophane wrapper for what appeared to be a store-bought muffin. Was he allowed to remove the ball from the wrapper without penalty before playing his next stroke? – Philip Knotts, via email

Rules Guy is a scone man himself but be that as it may.

Here’s what should have transpired there at Litterbug National: If the ball was fully inside the wrapper — i.e., not touching the course — the player was indeed allowed to take the ball from the wrapper and drop it in a one club-length area (no nearer the hole, still in the general area) based on the spot directly underneath where the ball was at rest in the wrapper. See Rule 15.2a and Definition of Breakfast Pastry.

Now, if the ball were on the green, it wouldn’t be a drop — the player would place the ball on the spot directly underneath, per Rule 15.2.

Lastly, if the ball were instead only partly inside the wrapper, with some of it touching the ground, ergo not in or on the obstruction but merely leaning against it, then the procedure is just to remove the wrapper and replace the ball if it moves, no penalty….

And now we are off to get breakfast.

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Player A and player B are both near, but not on, the putting surface. B is farther from the hole, but A’s ball is in his preferred path. B asks A to mark his ball. I know A can’t then clean his ball, but can he replace it with the aiming line on it aligned the way he wants or must he put it down oriented the way it was before? – Scott Puklich, Eden Prairie, Minn

The Rules of Golf can be, well, disorienting.

You’re right, Scott, the ball can’t be cleaned. The Rules for replacing don’t require the ball to be replaced in the same orientation, so a realignment using the line would be fine.

As an aside, though, the “spot” includes the ball’s vertical location relative to the ground, which can be an issue if there’s mud on the ball — you can’t essentially tee up the ball on a clump of mud attached to it unless it was already that way when you marked it, per Clarification 14.2c/1.

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If I want to take a stroke-and-distance penalty under Rule 18.1 for a tee shot that I don’t want to find (or look for), my understanding is I can if I don’t declare it a provisional. Am I also correct in thinking that I can’t re-tee it? If not, do I drop the ball or place it? — Fred Erickson, via email

Fred, your understanding was correct, right until it wasn’t.

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On the first point, yes, if you played from the teeing area and don’t want to find the ball, you can take stroke-and-distance relief and play again from said teeing area.

Regarding not being able to re-tee, wrong: Per Rule 6.2b, you can do so — again, you just need to play the ball from within the teeing area, whether on a tee or on the ground, as you prefer. It may not always pay to look for your ball, but it always pays to look up the appropriate rule.

For more tee-related guidance from our guru, read on …

A friend and I reached a tee box with only one marker. We played from where we thought was reasonable, guessing at the other marker’s location. Was that okay? — Warren Ayala, Anthem, Ariz.

In match play, you and your opponent (or friend or frenemy) can agree on how to decide the issue.

In stroke play, where the distinction becomes more important, contact the committee. Not reachable? Per Rule 6.2b(4), use reasonable judgment to try to play from the two club-length rectangle based on the front and outside edges of the tee marker. Clever committees will dot tee markers’ positions with spray paint for this eventuality.

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In a recent tournament, my tee shot ended up in a fairway divot and touching the ball of one of my playing partners, with my ball in front of his. Obviously, I needed to mark my ball so he could play his approach shot — which I did, to the side of our balls. His ensuing shot made the original divot much larger and deeper. We agreed that since it wasn’t possible to recreate my original lie in the divot, I should place my ball next to it and play on. Right call? – Edward Kelly, Jr., via email

Though it doesn’t impact our answer, Rules Guy assumes that you played first rather than your drive hopping over or back-spinning against your playing partner’s ball … but we digress.

So, did you make the right call? Maybe.

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First off, recreating the lie actually would have been wrong; you only do that when your ball is in sand and the lie gets altered. Per Rule 14.2d and Clarification 14.2d(2)/1 (which is a very similar scenario), the correct procedure is to place the ball in the nearest-most similar lie to the original within one club-length, no nearer the hole and still in the general area. Even though that lie may have been worse after your playing partner’s shot, it is quite possible that the new divot may have been the most similar. Or perhaps there was a similar divot within a club-length you could have placed into.

Needless to say, it usually isn’t the nice lie in the fairway that is the “nearest most similar,” but it’s not impossible. No more impossible than abutting-balls-in-a-divot …

For more lie-based guidance from our guru, read on …

We have the world’s most unfair bunker fronting our 17th green. It’s seven feet deep, but that’s the easy part. Shaped like a funnel, there’s only .001 inches of sand sitting at the base. When I find myself in this abyss, can I lift my ball as unplayable, rake sand into the base from the walls and then drop my ball for play, one penalty stroke poorer? Thanks for listening. – Bill Herrick, East Moriches, N.Y.

Rules Guy always tries to be a sympathetic ear, and we were with you for a moment there — when you wanted to treat the ball as unplayable and take penalty relief. That’s kosher.

But like the sand in your cruel bunker — “world’s most unfair” surely is stretching things a bit — your request eroded once you contemplated raking the sand where you plan to drop the ball, which, by improving your relief area, is verboten.

You need to simply drop the ball under one of the four options in Rule 19.3, three of which (stroke and distance, back on the line inside the bunker, lateral relief inside the bunker) cost one penalty stroke and the other (back on the line of relief outside the bunker) two penalty strokes.

Other options: Try a sand wedge with less bounce or find a new home course.

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